{"id":1093,"date":"2009-11-09T05:00:51","date_gmt":"2009-11-09T09:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/whamit.mit.edu\/?p=1093"},"modified":"2009-11-08T15:03:42","modified_gmt":"2009-11-08T19:03:42","slug":"ling-lunch-1112-jonah-katz-david-pesetsky","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/2009\/11\/09\/ling-lunch-1112-jonah-katz-david-pesetsky\/","title":{"rendered":"Ling-Lunch 11\/12: Jonah Katz &#038; David Pesetsky"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Please join us for Ling-lunch this week:<\/p>\n<p>Speakers: <a href=\"http:\/\/web.mit.edu\/jikatz\/www\/\">Jonah Katz<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/web.mit.edu\/linguistics\/people\/faculty\/pesetsky\/index.html\">David Pesetsky<\/a><BR><br clear='none'\/>\nTime: Thurs 11\/12, 12:30-1:45<BR><br clear='none'\/>\nPlace: <a href=\"http:\/\/whereis.mit.edu\/map-jpg?mapterms=32-D461\">32-D461<\/a><BR><br clear='none'\/>\nTitle: The Identity Thesis for Language and Music<BR><BR><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This paper argues for the following proposal:<BR><BR><\/p>\n<p><strong>Identity Thesis for Language and Music:<\/strong> <b><br clear='none'\/>All formal differences between language and music are a consequence of differences in their fundamental building blocks (arbitrary pairings of sound and meaning in the case of language; pitch-classes and pitch-class combinations in the case of music).  In all other respects, language and music are identical.<\/b><BR><BR><\/p>\n<p>In particular, we argue, developing but also extending earlier proposals by <a href=\"http:\/\/cognet.mit.edu\/library\/books\/view?isbn=026262107X\">Lerdahl and Jackendoff (1983)<\/a>, that music, like language, contains a syntactic component in which headed structures are built by iterated, recursive, binary <b>Merge<\/b>.  This is the component that Lerdahl and Jackendoff called <b>Prolongational Reduction<\/b>, which represents hierarchical patterns of tension and relaxation in tonal harmony. We further argue that the distinct component that Lerdahl and Jackendoff called <b>Time Span Reduction<\/b> is a musical prosodic component (a point anticipated by Lerdahl and Jackendoff themselves) &#8212; whose interface with the syntactic component is strikingly similar to the comparable interface between syntactic and prosodic structure in language.<BR><BR><\/p>\n<p>Though our discussion takes Lerdahl and Jackendoff&#8217;s work as a starting point and touchstone throughout, our proposals also constitute a significant realignment of their model &#8212; necessary in order to reveal similarities between musical and linguistic structure that were not evident in their presentation.  This realignment also reflects a distinction in goals between our proposal and theirs. Their work took as its starting point the question &#8220;Given a piece of music in a particular musical idiom I, what laws govern the class of analyses that a listener assigns to it in I?&#8221; Our proposals arise from a related but distinct question, more typical of generative linguistic work: &#8220;What general laws define the class of possible pieces in I?&#8221; That is, what is the grammar of I?<BR><BR><\/p>\n<p>Our realignment of Lerdahl and Jackendoff&#8217;s proposals in light of the Identity Thesis allows us to ask questions not taken up in their work. For example, does <b>Internal Merge<\/b> (i.e. syntactic movement) apply in the construction of musical syntactic structure, in addition to <b>External Merge<\/b>? We argue that the phenomenon of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cadence_(music)\"><b>cadence<\/b><\/a> is an instance of exactly this: head-movement from the penultimate constituent of a musical passage (the dominant) to the final tonic chord.<BR><BR><\/p>\n<p>Finally, we will suggest (but probably not have time to argue) that the output of musical syntax feeds a <b>Tonal-Harmonic Component<\/b> whose formal relation to the music syntax strongly resembles the relation between linguistic syntax and the semantic system that interacts with it &#8212; and is subject to a Principle of Full Interpretation with respect to that component.<BR><BR><\/p>\n<p>(A draft of a paper related to this talk is available on <a href=\"http:\/\/ling.auf.net\/lingBuzz\/000959\">LingBuzz<\/a>.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Please join us for Ling-lunch this week: Speakers: Jonah Katz and David Pesetsky Time: Thurs 11\/12, 12:30-1:45 Place: 32-D461 Title: The Identity Thesis for Language and Music This paper argues for the following proposal: Identity Thesis for Language and Music: All formal differences between language and music are a consequence of differences in their fundamental [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-talks"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1093","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1093"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1093\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1097,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1093\/revisions\/1097"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1093"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1093"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1093"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}