{"id":15327,"date":"2023-02-27T05:55:01","date_gmt":"2023-02-27T10:55:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/whamit.mit.edu\/?p=15327"},"modified":"2023-02-26T23:34:49","modified_gmt":"2023-02-27T04:34:49","slug":"lorenzo-pinton-s-babble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/2023\/02\/27\/lorenzo-pinton-s-babble\/","title":{"rendered":"Lorenzo Pinton @ S-Babble"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On February 21, 2023, our second-year student Lorenzo Pinton gave a talk at <a href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/ucsd.edu\/s-babble\/\">S-Babble<\/a>, a syntax-semantics discussion group at UC San Diego.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/whamit.mit.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/photo_2023-02-21-15.21.56.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-15328\" src=\"http:\/\/whamit.mit.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/photo_2023-02-21-15.21.56.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"650\" height=\"376\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Title: <\/strong><span class=\"C9DxTc \">&#8220;<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">Numerous&#8221; relative clauses: permutation invariance, anti-restrictiveness, triviality<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Abstract: <\/strong><span class=\"C9DxTc \">It\u0092s been observed that\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">gather<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">-like and\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">numerous<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">-like predicates give rise to different felicity patterns when combined with plural quantifiers (Kroch, 1974; Dowty et al., 1987; Champollion, 2010; Amiraz, 2021):<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">1)\u00a0 a.\u00a0 \u00a0 All the students gathered.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0b.\u00a0 #All the students are numerous.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">In this work, I aim to provide an analysis for similar data brought about by restrictive relative clauses:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">2)\u00a0 a.\u00a0 \u00a0 Jack only talked to the students that gathered.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0b.\u00a0 #Jack only talked to the students that were numerous.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">While\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">gather<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0can be felicitously applied in a restrictive construction (2a),<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0numerous<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0cannot (2b). First, I will argue, through Italian data, that the problem is really tied to restriction, rather than relative clauses in general. Second, I will claim that predicates like\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">numerous\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">have a specific property, permutation invariance (i.e. the fact that such predicates only care about the cardinality of a group, and not about the specific members that compose that group). This property is problematic when\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">numerous<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0is combined with pluralized predicate, where pluralization is defined as the star operator (Link, 1984). In particular, I will show that when a pluralized predicate modified by\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">numerous<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0combines with the definite article\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">the<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">, it generates triviality, which leads to infelicity (Gajewski, 2002). A positive outcome of this solution is that it\u00a0 predicts the puzzling data in (3), namely the fact that (2b) becomes good if\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">students<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0is modified by another predicate:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">3)\u00a0 Jack only talked to the gathered students that were numerous.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"zfr3Q CDt4Ke \" dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"C9DxTc \">In fact, we can assume that, when\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">gathered students\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">is not pluralized, it will feed\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">numerous<\/span><span class=\"C9DxTc \">\u00a0plural individuals (since it is a collective predicate), without leading to triviality. In the presentation I will discuss the conclusion that this solution seems to suggest: namely that pluralization is a rather free operation, which is syntactic in nature and its application is governed by certain logical properties, like avoiding triviality. I would like to conclude showing some problems that might be lurking in the proposed solution, and possible extensions of this solution to the plural quantifiers puzzle in (1) that the literature has focused on so far.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(Thanks to JJ Lim for the screenshot!)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On February 21, 2023, our second-year student Lorenzo Pinton gave a talk at S-Babble, a syntax-semantics discussion group at UC San Diego.\u00a0 &nbsp; Title: &#8220;Numerous&#8221; relative clauses: permutation invariance, anti-restrictiveness, triviality Abstract: It\u0092s been observed that\u00a0gather-like and\u00a0numerous-like predicates give rise to different felicity patterns when combined with plural quantifiers (Kroch, 1974; Dowty et al., 1987; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":33,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15327","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-student-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15327","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/33"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15327"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15327\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15342,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15327\/revisions\/15342"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15327"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15327"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ling-phil.mit.edu\/whamit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15327"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}